wow...how interesting. I was raised catholic and educated in private catholic schools from kindergarten thru Jesuit University. I was never taught about the "holocaust" , never taught that "6 million jews" were singled out in Ww2. After graduating from nursing school I started working in Jewish teaching hospital in SF in the late '60's. That's where I heard the story that prevails today but I never believed it. Thank you for this stellar research in this history. I have always known that the formation of a jewish "state" in already inhabited Palestine was a complete TRAVESTY and seems to have caused all the trouble in the world since the year i was born in the late 40's. I pray this 75 year wrong is about to be righted.
In fact, Zionism is a form of mind control. Protocols of the Elders of Zion were envisioned as such and they obviously had huge success. Check my latest stack ;)
I’ve been slowly coming to the realization that the British empire was a creature of the Khazarian Mafia = ashkenazi Jews. It was not an operation of native born English. I know the English had a long contentious relationship with the Roman Empire.
We are in an epic war between rule based civil societies and natural law based living free men and free women. Digital technologies (at our fingertips...our digits) are the battlegrounds this war is being fought on. The controllers want to and must place their systems of control into digital algorithms. Can people be controlled by machines? And free people are all over the digital battlegrounds speaking their minds, stockpiling truth bombs to use in their daily lives against those playing slave master for their overlords.
Love to all joyous, cranky, laughing, sobbing people swimming in truth.
Nice work Patriot. I agree. The kingdom of heaven is inside you.
When he was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming with something observable; no one will say, ‘See here!’ or ‘There!’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”
Thank you learned a few things. The bottom line for me is that Christians today do not understand the difference in the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.
Hebrews 8:1-13 ( had to make all caps for certain words to stand out due to the Substack not allowing formatting.
Hebrews 8:1-4
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the SUM: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
4 For if he were on earth, he should NOT be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the LAW:
5 Who serve unto the EXAMPLE and SHADOW of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the PATTERN shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a MORE EXCELLENT ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a BETTER COVENANT, which was established upon BETTER promises.
7 For if that FIRST COVENANT had been FAULTLESS, then should no place have been sought for the SECOND.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 NOT ACCORDING to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because THEY CONTINUED NOT IN MY COVENANT, and I regarded them NOT, saith the Lord.
10 For THIS is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their MIND, and write them in their HEARTS: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A NEW COVENANT, he hath made the FIRST OLD. Now that which DECAYETH and WAXETH OLD is ready to VANISH away.
There has always been the Church.
The elect among Israel were the Church.
The reprobate among the nation of Israel were not of spiritual Israel.
Israel was called as a chosen nation because of the faith of Abraham.
But not all those of natural Israel were of Israel (the Church).
In Romans 9:6, Paul writes, "For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" (Romans 9:6-8).
In John 8:44-45, Jesus said to a group of Jews, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."
Jesus saith unto them, "If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham" (39-40).
The Church is the "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), a spiritual organism made up of people of ALL nations.
Likewise, Israel is the Old Covenant Church. "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us" (Acts 7:38).
The Book of Hebrews clearly teaches us that the city (or land, country, earth) that the people of faith seek is NOT on earth but in heaven.
"These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them" (Hebrews 11:13-16).
Mount Zion is not the earthly city, but a heavenly one.
"But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels. ... For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come" (Hebrews 12:22; 13:14).
Sorry so long a comment, this is a subject near and dear to my heart how Evangelical Christians have been deceived by Zionism and Dispensational Theology.
If folks saw the POWER of what Jesus did on the cross and how powerful the New Covenant is there would be an end to wars.
There is no difference in Jew, Gentile we are ALL one in Christ. Everyone comes to faith by the blood of Jesus regardless of ethnicity, nationality, heritage, race, or color. Gal 3, Col 3
I was meaning to wait to expound upon this subject, but I must but in a shorten one. This is due to your post in telegram. I do not message in telegram.
Here's a partial quote of yours.
"During this time period the word 'Christian' in Hebrew and Greek didn't exist yet so when John referenced the 'Jews' in Revelations, he was talking about the followers of Jesus. The first Christians were ALL Jews."
Here's the scripture quotes from the KJV along with the Greek from Strong's.
Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, AND ARE NOT, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, AND ARE NOT, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Jews
G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
G2448
Ἰουδά
Iouda
ee-oo-dah'
Of Hebrew origin [H3063] or perhaps [H3194]; Judah (that is, Jehudah or Juttah), a part of (or place in) Palestine: - Judah.
The key is the phrase " AND ARE NOT".
Jesus at that time was referring to
the Idumeans who were forced to convert to Judaism and this
was way before the Khazarians, who later became false Jews
also through forced conversion. Jesus was speaking strong
words to the Idumeans who had become Pharisees, Saduccees
who where in the camp of King Herod who was Idumean. Of
course, He also was speaking strongly against the true ones of
the tribe of Judah who brought back pagan ideas, after being
in captivity in Persia.
See John Hyrcanus in Wikipedia
“Hyrcanus also initiated a military campaign against the
Idumeans (Edomites). During this campaign Hyrcanus
conquered Adora, Maresha and other Idumean towns
(Ant.13.257). Hyrcanus then instituted forced conversions on
the Idumeans to Judaism.[20] This was an unprecedented
move for a Judean ruler; it was the first instance of forced
conversion perpetrated by Jews in recorded history.[21]”
Zionism is just one of many tools of the Adversary and its roots, imo, goes way back to the apostate Judahites, Benjaminites and Levitites who came back into the land of Judah, after the Babylon-Persian captivity bringing with them teachings which were never part of the Law of God. They later forced the Idumeans (descendants of Esau) into Judaism. This created another people who were the “first false Jews” who came from a blood feud between brothers, i.e. Jacob and Esau). The promise went to Jacob and not to Esau. All the tribes of Israel came from Jacob. The Khazarians “jews” didn’t come into play until many, many years later after Yeshua’s resurrection. The Adversary creates issues from many groups of people for it is the author of confusion. Please take notice, not all the Judahites, Benjaminites and Levites became corrupted after being in Babylon. Many repented and are the ones who rebuilt the temple. This is the main reason that there were so many groups (Essenes, Herodians, Pharisees, Sadducees) who were fighting among themselves at the time of Yeshua’s ministry. What a mess that the Messiah had to deal with.
Wow. Every time I read one of your articles it makes me rethink every thing I’ve learned or have been taught about Israel and the second coming of Christ.
Most of these people are pre tribulation rapture believers. Christians believe that Jesus Christ will raise those people who are dead first and then the Christians will be taken away from the earth while Satan the anti christ destroys those left behind. I would like to know what you think about this? Thanks.
With all due respect, (I am a subscriber who has greatly appreciated your work), you need to go back and read the Bible. All the “zionists” you have named, some of which include actual cults with occultic roots or denominations which have gone astray or have been infiltrated so adeptly by the counter reformational machinations of the Jesuit order (look up their oath of induction submitted to congress sometime in the early part of the 20th century), have many issues, but Zionism as God sees it, is NOT one of them. You have egregiously lumped them all together because they all believe in the legitimacy of Israel. Francis Bacon for all his high intellect and contributions to the “scientific method” was a Rosicrucian and, I suspect, a secret Jesuit…as for John Dee, he was a black magician…but, so what, that does not change scripture. Dont forget, also, these people were barely out of the dark ages at that time. Keep them in proper perspective. Your take on the history does not belie the questionable motives and involvement of sinful men, but it has the noticeable hallmarks of dialectical jesuitry that you should be alert to. We fight not against flesh and blood, and diabolical influence has been around since Genesis 3. Words get twisted and redefined, history gets erased and substituted for so called true history and with such skill that we don’t realize we have been fooled again. We live in a world of fallen men who will perish apart from Jesus, so bear in mind, that it is essential not to add to the confusion (of which God is NOT THE AUTHOR) in a biblically illiterate world. God is NOT done with Israel by any means. Read the prophets and read Romans 11 and the book of Revelation. Read the whole Bible as one book, please. This will give you the only true perspective on a seemingly complex topic. God loves the nation of Israel and will keep his promises to them. He has turned His face from them for a time and so has been merciful to the rest of us. Always saving a remnant. The hanky panky of satanic Rothschild’s and Jesuits and Masons contributing to the outflow of history in the Middle East in no way changes God’s promises and intentions toward Israel as a chosen nation. It’s very clear from the WHOLE counsel of God that Israel is still in for a bumpy ride but woe to them who get in the middle of His dealings with them. Do I suspect Mossad nefariousness is in play. Yes. I think so. Just as with a host of other players. In spite of my love for Israel and my desire to support them, I do NOT want to be forking out money to fund wars that are largely fomented by money interests when I am certain it is occurring, but I certainly will not question Israel’s right to defend herself or her sovereignty which is GOD ordained. Look up Olam Ebah. It’s Biblical and very real and is in no way an expression of righteous indignation to justify the evil, unjustifiably barbaric actions of recent days. I would rather they all, whosoever will, come to a knowledge of their Jewish Messiah. Jesus IS and He IS from the tribe of Judah. The judgements on these nations that come against Israel are clearly negative. The instructions to the body of Christ as to the approach we ought to take are clear. In spite of theological error going back to the birth of the church, the church and Israel are not the same thing (the means of salvation is the same, however, just as with Abraham-God’s friend).The Lord will give you clarity on this, if you really want it. I am praying that you will read God’s Word with fervor and more vigorously because it will bless your efforts to expose the lies. But “Zionism” is a real tool of the enemy and a very powerful one. God told His people that He would NOT LEAVE THEM unpunished and calls out their sins repeatedly…. but that land is and has always been theirs, since God promised and He KEEPS HIS PROMISES. The wrong or right of any nation or person or fallen angelic being will change none of it. I leave you this from Jeremiah23:5-8:
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jer 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jer 23:8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
I agree with you that the Cabal (which includes people who at the very least call themselves Jews) has infiltrated Christianity and attempted to exploit Christians' reverence for Israel, and that they have attempted to twist our understanding of the End Times, but saying that the physical descendants of Israel are no longer part of God's plan goes against what Paul clearly lays out in Romans 9 through 11. It's very clear that he is talking about the physical descendants of Israel. 11:26 says, "all Israel will be saved". Whether or not you include gentile believers as part of Israel, it is clear that without the Jewish believers (and other tribes) that we are not "ALL Israel".
I believe this is a prophecy that prior to Jesus' return there will be a great revival of Jewish people turning to Christ. I addition, God has always retained a remnant of Israelites who have remained faithful to Him.
Again, I am aware that the Cabal was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel. But this is not proof that God has abandoned Israel. On the contrary, Satan seeks to influence and corrupt the things that God loves, and especially positions of influence that can be exploited for control of humanity. But it is also true that God can ultimately turn evil plans around for good.
You're walking a fine line with replacement theology. Remember, the gentiles were grafted into what was always there. The tree (Christ, who is the Word and was with God in the beginning and is God). The unbelieving Jews were cut off....but there were believing Jews who repented and remained in the tree.
The term gentiles means the nations. So in the fullness of the gentiles, or the christianization of the nations, the Jews will be jealous and begin to convert.
There is a mass confusion in the church right now. As time progresses that will end and the kingdom will continue to fill the whole earth.
A lot of people in the comment who disagree with the author sound like they believe in the futurism interpretation of the book of revelation (rapture, 7 yr tribulation). This was come up with by the Jesuits to hide the fact that the Catholic Church and popes are the beast and antichrist. All of the Protestant reformers were pointing to the Catholic Church as being the antichrist. So the Jesuits came up with futurism as part of the counter reformation with Vatican agents like CI scofield and John Darby introducing these lies to Protestants. The historicism interpretation of the book of revelation is the correct one.
I shared this article below on Gab awhile back it discusses the spiritual Israelite question and much more. I thought you might like to read my thoughts on said subject if not that's OK too! Thanks Mike
Thanks for the article!
Two things caught my attention.
1. The first subject is who is Israel in the end times if they are not of the Jewish bloodline? You explained who they are not but it still does not address who they are in these end times. These two next verses tell us there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ. It is clear then bloodlines do not define a New Testament Israelite just as New Jerusalem is spiritual so are the members of God Jesus temple neither literal Jews or Gentiles simply because they were translated into the spiritual sons of God Jesus at the time they were called to his side in the clouds. The anointing is the seal that makes you either one of the bride class, the few, or one in the great company who go through the great tribulation who I view as the wedding guest.
Ga 3: 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: FOR YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, (Spiritual Jews or Israelites!) and heirs according to the promise.
Ro 10:12 ¶ For THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GREEK: FOR THE SAME LORD OVER ALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
2. The second important statement you made is the most important one of all as you say this “Christ who is God the Son and the only Way to God the Father” this father and son arrangement, excluding the trinity concept, to me is the Key to the anointing process. The true anointing defines a New Testament spiritual Israelite and potential citizen of the coming spiritual New Jerusalem God Jesus occupies in the heavens today. As this verse explains:
Re 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of THE CITY OF MY GOD, WHICH IS NEW JERUSALEM, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
When you understand the spiritual significance surrounding New Jerusalem then it becomes clear that spiritual Israelites that occupy God Jesus temple or home have to have come from the Christian world which once harvested are the spiritual wheat class who are translated into New Jerusalem and become spiritual Jews who had been sealed once tested by the holy spirit because they knew the father and son in truth they alone were eligible to become God Jesus spiritual son’s.
Not to make this reply to long the last thought to your question “So then, who are the vast majority of Israelites” to me where the most liberated Christian population is gathered is where the final harvest of the saints will primarily begin. To me there in more fertile Christian field composed of wheat and tares in the world then the U.S.A. The world population is the field but I think the U.S.A. could possibly be that great city Babylon spoken of in Revelations that is judged in one hour and falls in one day, the U.S. in on the verge of total collapse as I type. In Gods time frame one hour could represent about two weeks the fall would come in about one year. Just a thought!
To conclude it is my belief you must understand and worship God the father and God the son in truth otherwise the anointing take affect defining you more likely than not a tare class Christian. My question to you is who was God the son before he came to earth as Jesus the man and what name was he called when he was in heaven by his father’s side during the Old Testament times?
Your Friend In Christ Service Mike Jacob you can read more about the father and son on my substack page. mjacob.substack.com
Wednesday a friend sent me this and this is my comment to them:
OK I just finished reading the Substack you sent me the other day. Yesterday was very busy so I was not able to put any time into it but I wanted to follow up on it today.
It's a very interesting and well written article. I think the author demonstrates how men continuously like to make simple things complicated. I do not disagree with a lot of what he said although I don't know that he was thorough in his approach.
The one thing that jumped out at me the most is, it is not a new concept for many claiming to be Christians to attempt to speed up the end times. It is as if they think God needs their help. I hear that so-called evangelicals are still trying to get Jews to return so it will cause the End Times to start. I wouldn't be surprised to learn their efforts are actually slowing it, not speeding it up. I think you and I both agree on that, but with that said, it does not mean the general premise of Jews still being God's chosen people is incorrect.
I have a cousin who lives in Tennessee, and she is a member of a denomination, I'm not sure I've ever heard what its name is, and she is listed or at least she list herself as a prophetess. I don't know one way or the other how that works, but she sent me a book a few years ago about how Americans are the new chosen people. I've never read the book because I am not interested in the topic, but it does demonstrate there are a lot of people, or at least some people who believe such things. Personally, I do not agree, but I'm not in a position to argue the point
I find this topic extremely interesting and would love to sit around with folks drink a beer or so, or a cup of coffee and discuss it but I don't think anyone else finds it as interesting as I do.
I still subscribe to the premillennialist perspective, but as I have said time and time again, I am not dogmatic about it. But today in my daily Bible reading, I was reading Luke 21 and 22. You see the verse I sent a little while ago
““But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near.” Luke 21:20
and I also saw these verses which I think apply to what the author was discussing although I did not see it referenced or considered. The 12 tribes are obviously a focal point.
““You are those who have stood by Me in My trials; and just as My Father has granted Me a kingdom, I grant you that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”
Luke 22:28-30
Again, I find it very interesting and worthy of discussion and thought, but that's about it. As we have said before, this is not the most important topic in the Bible. But at the end of the day, when all the dust settles, we will find out where the truth really lies. Thanks for sending this. I really enjoyed reading it.
He failed to provide all the Scripture references throughout the Bible that talk about Israel being gathered from the ends of the earth and becoming a nation again. This was prophesied in the Old and New Testament. This person is a shill straight from hell. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON! THEY ARE A DECEIVER!
wow...how interesting. I was raised catholic and educated in private catholic schools from kindergarten thru Jesuit University. I was never taught about the "holocaust" , never taught that "6 million jews" were singled out in Ww2. After graduating from nursing school I started working in Jewish teaching hospital in SF in the late '60's. That's where I heard the story that prevails today but I never believed it. Thank you for this stellar research in this history. I have always known that the formation of a jewish "state" in already inhabited Palestine was a complete TRAVESTY and seems to have caused all the trouble in the world since the year i was born in the late 40's. I pray this 75 year wrong is about to be righted.
Yet another excellent post mate!
In fact, Zionism is a form of mind control. Protocols of the Elders of Zion were envisioned as such and they obviously had huge success. Check my latest stack ;)
I’ve been slowly coming to the realization that the British empire was a creature of the Khazarian Mafia = ashkenazi Jews. It was not an operation of native born English. I know the English had a long contentious relationship with the Roman Empire.
We are in an epic war between rule based civil societies and natural law based living free men and free women. Digital technologies (at our fingertips...our digits) are the battlegrounds this war is being fought on. The controllers want to and must place their systems of control into digital algorithms. Can people be controlled by machines? And free people are all over the digital battlegrounds speaking their minds, stockpiling truth bombs to use in their daily lives against those playing slave master for their overlords.
Love to all joyous, cranky, laughing, sobbing people swimming in truth.
Great work by the way
Nice work Patriot. I agree. The kingdom of heaven is inside you.
When he was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming with something observable; no one will say, ‘See here!’ or ‘There!’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”
Luke 17:20
I take issue with you referring to Mormonism as a “Christian” religion. It is not. It is a cult.
Thank you learned a few things. The bottom line for me is that Christians today do not understand the difference in the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.
Hebrews 8:1-13 ( had to make all caps for certain words to stand out due to the Substack not allowing formatting.
Hebrews 8:1-4
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the SUM: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
4 For if he were on earth, he should NOT be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the LAW:
5 Who serve unto the EXAMPLE and SHADOW of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the PATTERN shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a MORE EXCELLENT ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a BETTER COVENANT, which was established upon BETTER promises.
7 For if that FIRST COVENANT had been FAULTLESS, then should no place have been sought for the SECOND.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 NOT ACCORDING to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because THEY CONTINUED NOT IN MY COVENANT, and I regarded them NOT, saith the Lord.
10 For THIS is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their MIND, and write them in their HEARTS: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A NEW COVENANT, he hath made the FIRST OLD. Now that which DECAYETH and WAXETH OLD is ready to VANISH away.
There has always been the Church.
The elect among Israel were the Church.
The reprobate among the nation of Israel were not of spiritual Israel.
Israel was called as a chosen nation because of the faith of Abraham.
But not all those of natural Israel were of Israel (the Church).
In Romans 9:6, Paul writes, "For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" (Romans 9:6-8).
In John 8:44-45, Jesus said to a group of Jews, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."
Jesus saith unto them, "If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham" (39-40).
The Church is the "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), a spiritual organism made up of people of ALL nations.
Likewise, Israel is the Old Covenant Church. "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us" (Acts 7:38).
The Book of Hebrews clearly teaches us that the city (or land, country, earth) that the people of faith seek is NOT on earth but in heaven.
"These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them" (Hebrews 11:13-16).
Mount Zion is not the earthly city, but a heavenly one.
"But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels. ... For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come" (Hebrews 12:22; 13:14).
Sorry so long a comment, this is a subject near and dear to my heart how Evangelical Christians have been deceived by Zionism and Dispensational Theology.
If folks saw the POWER of what Jesus did on the cross and how powerful the New Covenant is there would be an end to wars.
There is no difference in Jew, Gentile we are ALL one in Christ. Everyone comes to faith by the blood of Jesus regardless of ethnicity, nationality, heritage, race, or color. Gal 3, Col 3
I was meaning to wait to expound upon this subject, but I must but in a shorten one. This is due to your post in telegram. I do not message in telegram.
Here's a partial quote of yours.
"During this time period the word 'Christian' in Hebrew and Greek didn't exist yet so when John referenced the 'Jews' in Revelations, he was talking about the followers of Jesus. The first Christians were ALL Jews."
https://t.me/anon_fa_mous/4549
Your logic doesn't fit the actual history.
Here's the scripture quotes from the KJV along with the Greek from Strong's.
Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, AND ARE NOT, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, AND ARE NOT, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Jews
G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - Jew (-ess), of Juda.
G2448
Ἰουδά
Iouda
ee-oo-dah'
Of Hebrew origin [H3063] or perhaps [H3194]; Judah (that is, Jehudah or Juttah), a part of (or place in) Palestine: - Judah.
The key is the phrase " AND ARE NOT".
Jesus at that time was referring to
the Idumeans who were forced to convert to Judaism and this
was way before the Khazarians, who later became false Jews
also through forced conversion. Jesus was speaking strong
words to the Idumeans who had become Pharisees, Saduccees
who where in the camp of King Herod who was Idumean. Of
course, He also was speaking strongly against the true ones of
the tribe of Judah who brought back pagan ideas, after being
in captivity in Persia.
See John Hyrcanus in Wikipedia
“Hyrcanus also initiated a military campaign against the
Idumeans (Edomites). During this campaign Hyrcanus
conquered Adora, Maresha and other Idumean towns
(Ant.13.257). Hyrcanus then instituted forced conversions on
the Idumeans to Judaism.[20] This was an unprecedented
move for a Judean ruler; it was the first instance of forced
conversion perpetrated by Jews in recorded history.[21]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hyrcanus#External_links
Zionism is just one of many tools of the Adversary and its roots, imo, goes way back to the apostate Judahites, Benjaminites and Levitites who came back into the land of Judah, after the Babylon-Persian captivity bringing with them teachings which were never part of the Law of God. They later forced the Idumeans (descendants of Esau) into Judaism. This created another people who were the “first false Jews” who came from a blood feud between brothers, i.e. Jacob and Esau). The promise went to Jacob and not to Esau. All the tribes of Israel came from Jacob. The Khazarians “jews” didn’t come into play until many, many years later after Yeshua’s resurrection. The Adversary creates issues from many groups of people for it is the author of confusion. Please take notice, not all the Judahites, Benjaminites and Levites became corrupted after being in Babylon. Many repented and are the ones who rebuilt the temple. This is the main reason that there were so many groups (Essenes, Herodians, Pharisees, Sadducees) who were fighting among themselves at the time of Yeshua’s ministry. What a mess that the Messiah had to deal with.
Wow. Every time I read one of your articles it makes me rethink every thing I’ve learned or have been taught about Israel and the second coming of Christ.
Most of these people are pre tribulation rapture believers. Christians believe that Jesus Christ will raise those people who are dead first and then the Christians will be taken away from the earth while Satan the anti christ destroys those left behind. I would like to know what you think about this? Thanks.
With all due respect, (I am a subscriber who has greatly appreciated your work), you need to go back and read the Bible. All the “zionists” you have named, some of which include actual cults with occultic roots or denominations which have gone astray or have been infiltrated so adeptly by the counter reformational machinations of the Jesuit order (look up their oath of induction submitted to congress sometime in the early part of the 20th century), have many issues, but Zionism as God sees it, is NOT one of them. You have egregiously lumped them all together because they all believe in the legitimacy of Israel. Francis Bacon for all his high intellect and contributions to the “scientific method” was a Rosicrucian and, I suspect, a secret Jesuit…as for John Dee, he was a black magician…but, so what, that does not change scripture. Dont forget, also, these people were barely out of the dark ages at that time. Keep them in proper perspective. Your take on the history does not belie the questionable motives and involvement of sinful men, but it has the noticeable hallmarks of dialectical jesuitry that you should be alert to. We fight not against flesh and blood, and diabolical influence has been around since Genesis 3. Words get twisted and redefined, history gets erased and substituted for so called true history and with such skill that we don’t realize we have been fooled again. We live in a world of fallen men who will perish apart from Jesus, so bear in mind, that it is essential not to add to the confusion (of which God is NOT THE AUTHOR) in a biblically illiterate world. God is NOT done with Israel by any means. Read the prophets and read Romans 11 and the book of Revelation. Read the whole Bible as one book, please. This will give you the only true perspective on a seemingly complex topic. God loves the nation of Israel and will keep his promises to them. He has turned His face from them for a time and so has been merciful to the rest of us. Always saving a remnant. The hanky panky of satanic Rothschild’s and Jesuits and Masons contributing to the outflow of history in the Middle East in no way changes God’s promises and intentions toward Israel as a chosen nation. It’s very clear from the WHOLE counsel of God that Israel is still in for a bumpy ride but woe to them who get in the middle of His dealings with them. Do I suspect Mossad nefariousness is in play. Yes. I think so. Just as with a host of other players. In spite of my love for Israel and my desire to support them, I do NOT want to be forking out money to fund wars that are largely fomented by money interests when I am certain it is occurring, but I certainly will not question Israel’s right to defend herself or her sovereignty which is GOD ordained. Look up Olam Ebah. It’s Biblical and very real and is in no way an expression of righteous indignation to justify the evil, unjustifiably barbaric actions of recent days. I would rather they all, whosoever will, come to a knowledge of their Jewish Messiah. Jesus IS and He IS from the tribe of Judah. The judgements on these nations that come against Israel are clearly negative. The instructions to the body of Christ as to the approach we ought to take are clear. In spite of theological error going back to the birth of the church, the church and Israel are not the same thing (the means of salvation is the same, however, just as with Abraham-God’s friend).The Lord will give you clarity on this, if you really want it. I am praying that you will read God’s Word with fervor and more vigorously because it will bless your efforts to expose the lies. But “Zionism” is a real tool of the enemy and a very powerful one. God told His people that He would NOT LEAVE THEM unpunished and calls out their sins repeatedly…. but that land is and has always been theirs, since God promised and He KEEPS HIS PROMISES. The wrong or right of any nation or person or fallen angelic being will change none of it. I leave you this from Jeremiah23:5-8:
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jer 23:7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jer 23:8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
I agree with you that the Cabal (which includes people who at the very least call themselves Jews) has infiltrated Christianity and attempted to exploit Christians' reverence for Israel, and that they have attempted to twist our understanding of the End Times, but saying that the physical descendants of Israel are no longer part of God's plan goes against what Paul clearly lays out in Romans 9 through 11. It's very clear that he is talking about the physical descendants of Israel. 11:26 says, "all Israel will be saved". Whether or not you include gentile believers as part of Israel, it is clear that without the Jewish believers (and other tribes) that we are not "ALL Israel".
I believe this is a prophecy that prior to Jesus' return there will be a great revival of Jewish people turning to Christ. I addition, God has always retained a remnant of Israelites who have remained faithful to Him.
Again, I am aware that the Cabal was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel. But this is not proof that God has abandoned Israel. On the contrary, Satan seeks to influence and corrupt the things that God loves, and especially positions of influence that can be exploited for control of humanity. But it is also true that God can ultimately turn evil plans around for good.
You're walking a fine line with replacement theology. Remember, the gentiles were grafted into what was always there. The tree (Christ, who is the Word and was with God in the beginning and is God). The unbelieving Jews were cut off....but there were believing Jews who repented and remained in the tree.
The term gentiles means the nations. So in the fullness of the gentiles, or the christianization of the nations, the Jews will be jealous and begin to convert.
There is a mass confusion in the church right now. As time progresses that will end and the kingdom will continue to fill the whole earth.
Postmillennialism
A lot of people in the comment who disagree with the author sound like they believe in the futurism interpretation of the book of revelation (rapture, 7 yr tribulation). This was come up with by the Jesuits to hide the fact that the Catholic Church and popes are the beast and antichrist. All of the Protestant reformers were pointing to the Catholic Church as being the antichrist. So the Jesuits came up with futurism as part of the counter reformation with Vatican agents like CI scofield and John Darby introducing these lies to Protestants. The historicism interpretation of the book of revelation is the correct one.
Great Article!
I shared this article below on Gab awhile back it discusses the spiritual Israelite question and much more. I thought you might like to read my thoughts on said subject if not that's OK too! Thanks Mike
Thanks for the article!
Two things caught my attention.
1. The first subject is who is Israel in the end times if they are not of the Jewish bloodline? You explained who they are not but it still does not address who they are in these end times. These two next verses tell us there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ. It is clear then bloodlines do not define a New Testament Israelite just as New Jerusalem is spiritual so are the members of God Jesus temple neither literal Jews or Gentiles simply because they were translated into the spiritual sons of God Jesus at the time they were called to his side in the clouds. The anointing is the seal that makes you either one of the bride class, the few, or one in the great company who go through the great tribulation who I view as the wedding guest.
Ga 3: 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE: FOR YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, (Spiritual Jews or Israelites!) and heirs according to the promise.
Ro 10:12 ¶ For THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GREEK: FOR THE SAME LORD OVER ALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
2. The second important statement you made is the most important one of all as you say this “Christ who is God the Son and the only Way to God the Father” this father and son arrangement, excluding the trinity concept, to me is the Key to the anointing process. The true anointing defines a New Testament spiritual Israelite and potential citizen of the coming spiritual New Jerusalem God Jesus occupies in the heavens today. As this verse explains:
Re 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of THE CITY OF MY GOD, WHICH IS NEW JERUSALEM, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
When you understand the spiritual significance surrounding New Jerusalem then it becomes clear that spiritual Israelites that occupy God Jesus temple or home have to have come from the Christian world which once harvested are the spiritual wheat class who are translated into New Jerusalem and become spiritual Jews who had been sealed once tested by the holy spirit because they knew the father and son in truth they alone were eligible to become God Jesus spiritual son’s.
Not to make this reply to long the last thought to your question “So then, who are the vast majority of Israelites” to me where the most liberated Christian population is gathered is where the final harvest of the saints will primarily begin. To me there in more fertile Christian field composed of wheat and tares in the world then the U.S.A. The world population is the field but I think the U.S.A. could possibly be that great city Babylon spoken of in Revelations that is judged in one hour and falls in one day, the U.S. in on the verge of total collapse as I type. In Gods time frame one hour could represent about two weeks the fall would come in about one year. Just a thought!
To conclude it is my belief you must understand and worship God the father and God the son in truth otherwise the anointing take affect defining you more likely than not a tare class Christian. My question to you is who was God the son before he came to earth as Jesus the man and what name was he called when he was in heaven by his father’s side during the Old Testament times?
Your Friend In Christ Service Mike Jacob you can read more about the father and son on my substack page. mjacob.substack.com
Or try this link: mjacob.substack.com or INTRODUCTION PAGE.
Mike
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Wednesday a friend sent me this and this is my comment to them:
OK I just finished reading the Substack you sent me the other day. Yesterday was very busy so I was not able to put any time into it but I wanted to follow up on it today.
It's a very interesting and well written article. I think the author demonstrates how men continuously like to make simple things complicated. I do not disagree with a lot of what he said although I don't know that he was thorough in his approach.
The one thing that jumped out at me the most is, it is not a new concept for many claiming to be Christians to attempt to speed up the end times. It is as if they think God needs their help. I hear that so-called evangelicals are still trying to get Jews to return so it will cause the End Times to start. I wouldn't be surprised to learn their efforts are actually slowing it, not speeding it up. I think you and I both agree on that, but with that said, it does not mean the general premise of Jews still being God's chosen people is incorrect.
I have a cousin who lives in Tennessee, and she is a member of a denomination, I'm not sure I've ever heard what its name is, and she is listed or at least she list herself as a prophetess. I don't know one way or the other how that works, but she sent me a book a few years ago about how Americans are the new chosen people. I've never read the book because I am not interested in the topic, but it does demonstrate there are a lot of people, or at least some people who believe such things. Personally, I do not agree, but I'm not in a position to argue the point
I find this topic extremely interesting and would love to sit around with folks drink a beer or so, or a cup of coffee and discuss it but I don't think anyone else finds it as interesting as I do.
I still subscribe to the premillennialist perspective, but as I have said time and time again, I am not dogmatic about it. But today in my daily Bible reading, I was reading Luke 21 and 22. You see the verse I sent a little while ago
““But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near.” Luke 21:20
and I also saw these verses which I think apply to what the author was discussing although I did not see it referenced or considered. The 12 tribes are obviously a focal point.
““You are those who have stood by Me in My trials; and just as My Father has granted Me a kingdom, I grant you that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”
Luke 22:28-30
Again, I find it very interesting and worthy of discussion and thought, but that's about it. As we have said before, this is not the most important topic in the Bible. But at the end of the day, when all the dust settles, we will find out where the truth really lies. Thanks for sending this. I really enjoyed reading it.
He failed to provide all the Scripture references throughout the Bible that talk about Israel being gathered from the ends of the earth and becoming a nation again. This was prophesied in the Old and New Testament. This person is a shill straight from hell. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON! THEY ARE A DECEIVER!